Monday, May 19, 2008

what is happening in St,Cloud

first my name is jamal,last couple of years that i lived in st,cloud, i have been hearing thing that happen to some of my family members,friends and general to Somali Community, i have been dynied all that years there are any racial issue or tention,i also beleived that there are good people in this community,and becuase of that, you should not be painted one brush all poeple, to my believe it is "wrong" if you call all poeple one name, because every individual has a name,deferent beleive,deferent behevor and inditity so they can not be all in same,and there is a saying "DO nt punish a crime a one to another" for example if a man does a crime should hir wife or girl friend punish,becuase of his crime althought they are close people. i beleive the answer is NO.
i know there are organzations who have been working tiresless to change st,cloud and welcoming to others not only somalian but including all other moniroties blacks,hispanics,jews, and Somalians. and create health community, last year St,clout state and other agencies held a large meeting in civic center about racial issue and racism in St,cloud, mayor was there, and large poeple majority i would say local people we there, i remember they talked about how maniroty house owner ship is low,they talked about young hispanic and black are not gratuating in school bruce witkin was the person who said they will do some thing about that.
after the issue of the dog i asked my self question if local people are not fair between a dog and somalis. will they be fair to a white person againt somali. i came to conclution. to starting writting story about somalis and that is why i create a blog and youtube account, i want to create a web to contunie a dialogue about this issue and news paper.

Police car rammed; man arrested

A St. Paul man was arrested after he intentionally rammed a St. Cloud police car, police said.


Abdi Ibrahim Ahmed, 32, was arrested and is being held on suspicion of second-degree assault, reckless driving and criminal damage to property.

Officers were called at 7:45 p.m. Saturday to 33rd Avenue North and Veterans Drive after receiving calls about erratic driving. Officers found the car at 710-33rd Ave. N. The suspect rammed the police car twice, police said.

The suspect and officer were not injured. The police car received minor front-end damage.

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redbear20 wrote:

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Wow. once again St. Cloud's finest has had a run in with another stupid criminal. Regardless of his background, he is still a loser....

It is funny to me that race is always an issue here on these boards... Doesnt anyone but me realize that it was just a stupid criminal who did this?? regardless of race or gender?? just another dill hole who thought they could beat the law.

Think again buddy-boy!!! The police up here actually LIKE to do more than just give you a ticket for not having your seatbelts on.
i think dill hole is hyphenated

5/19/2008 7:52:00 PM

Replying to mrsseaytobe:

Wow. once again St. Cloud's finest has had a run in with another stupid criminal. Regardless of his background, he is still a loser....

It is funny to me that race is always an issue here on these boards... Doesnt anyone but me realize that it was just a stupid criminal who did this?? regardless of race or gender?? just another dill hole who thought they could beat the law.

Think again buddy-boy!!! The police up here actually LIKE to do more than just give you a ticket for not having your seatbelts on.
i think dill hole is hyphenated
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mrsseaytobe wrote:

Wow. once again St. Cloud's finest has had a run in with another stupid criminal.
Regardless of his background, he is still a loser....


It is funny to me that race is always an issue here on these boards... Doesnt anyone but me realize that it was just a stupid criminal who did this?? regardless of race or gender?? just another dill hole who thought they could beat the law
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Think again buddy-boy!!! The police up here actually LIKE to do more than just give you a ticket for not having your seatbelts on.


5/19/2008 7:25:57 PM
Wow. once again St. Cloud's finest has had a run in with another stupid criminal. Regardless of his background, he is still a loser
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It is funny to me that race is always an issue here on these boards... Doesnt anyone but me realize that it was just a stupid criminal who did this?? regardless of race or gender?? just another dill hole who thought they could beat the law.

Think again buddy-boy!!! The police up here actually LIKE to do more than just give you a ticket for not having your seatbelts on. mrsseaytobe
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AngieD wrote:

I'm thinking that maybe he wanted to get khat.
Kidding aside, I think the Somolis get a bad rap as a group simply because they are "new".
All eyes are upon them to watch for mistakes, mistakes some will surely make because they aren't familiar with the ways of the land. There will still be some bad apples in the end, but most will learn the ways in time, and by that time, there may be a "new" population to take the spotlight. Most Somolis know you can't ram a Police car so I'm guessing this one is just one bad apple in the bunch.


5/19/2008 5:52:38 PM I'm thinking that maybe he wanted to get khat.
Kidding aside, I think the Somolis get a bad rap as a group simply because they are "new". All eyes are upon them to watch for mistakes, mistakes some will surely make because they aren't familiar with the ways of the land. There will still be some bad apples in the end, but most will learn the ways in time, and by that time, there may be a "new" population to take the spotlight. Most Somolis know you can't ram a Police car so I'm guessing this one is just one bad apple in the bunch. AngieD
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CheezyEggz wrote:

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As for the article....

What the heck was this man thinking??? It's scary to know that are angry peeps like him out on the roads.



LOL! I ripped on someone's grammar and then I screw up!

It's scary to know that there are...................


5/19/2008 5:44:11 PM

Replying to CheezyEggz:

As for the article....

What the heck was this man thinking??? It's scary to know that are angry peeps like him out on the roads.


LOL! I ripped on someone's grammar and then I screw up!

It's scary to know that there are...................

CheezyEggz
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CheezyEggz wrote:

As for the article....

What the heck was this man thinking??? It's scary to know that are angry peeps like him out on the roads.

CheezyEggz wrote:

I think cloudgirl should learn proper grammar and punctuation before insulting others. JMO.

5/19/2008 5:21:06 PM I think cloudgirl should learn proper grammar and punctuation before insulting others. JMO. CheezyEggz
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sharpsshooter wrote:

Replying to FilthPaste:

Well nowadaze, if you are pulled over the cops are trained to try and jump into your vehicle to stop you if you wait until they get up to you, then at that point in them trying to stop you, if you don't stop, you will get shot. I guess I don't disagree, but it is kind of wierd. But I am guessing this police cruiser simply parked in front of the man, and the dude was like what the hell.

(assumption, but from multiple police videos and articles I am led to believe this)

OMG you really don't have a clue about Police training and tactics...what utter B.S.
5/19/2008 4:48:02 PM

Replying to FilthPaste:

Well nowadaze, if you are pulled over the cops are trained to try and jump into your vehicle to stop you if you wait until they get up to you, then at that point in them trying to stop you, if you don't stop, you will get shot. I guess I don't disagree, but it is kind of wierd. But I am guessing this police cruiser simply parked in front of the man, and the dude was like what the hell.
(assumption, but from multiple police videos and articles I am led to believe this)

OMG you really don't have a clue about Police training and tactics...what utter B.S. sharpsshooter
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beebee82 wrote:

Comment, way to completely "mis-remember" that story. The landlord of an apartment called the police because a tenent (who happened to be Somali) had spit in his or her face (can't remember the gender of the landlord.)

The man was arrested for a low-level assault. So...um....he did get punished.

I guess I'd have a warped opinion about an entire race of people too if I only read and heard what I wanted to hear only to confirm my already pre-conceived prejudices against them =/
5/19/2008 3:56:11 PM Comment, way to completely "mis-remember" that story. The landlord of an apartment called the police because a tenent (who happened to be Somali) had spit in his or her face (can't remember the gender of the landlord.)

The man was arrested for a low-level assault. So...um....he did get punished.

I guess I'd have a warped opinion about an entire race of people too if I only read and heard what I wanted to hear only to confirm my already pre-conceived prejudices against them =/ beebee82
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Comment12 wrote:

Replying to lakelover:

there was actually an article back in april where police responded to a complaint. in this apartment the police found a group of somali men in a back room, and when police asked them to keep noise down one of the men spit in the cops face, and another hit a cop in the side of the head. If you or I did that we would be on the ground from the taser. but in this case it was a "miscommunication" because go figure the somalis didnt speak or understand english. all im saying is that they get away with a lot more than we could.


Replying to Comment12:

Well, this guy was arrested, just like you or I would be if we rammed a cop car. So what was your point? When have any somalis ever gotten a lighter punishment than deserved? Do you have even one example or do you just keep "hearing" that?

5/19/2008 3:28:37 PM

Replying to lakelover:

there was actually an article back in april where police responded to a complaint. in this apartment the police found a group of somali men in a back room, and when police asked them to keep noise down one of the men spit in the cops face, and another hit a cop in the side of the head. If you or I did that we would be on the ground from the taser. but in this case it was a "miscommunication" because go figure the somalis didnt speak or understand english. all im saying is that they get away with a lot more than we could.

Replying to Comment12:

Well, this guy was arrested, just like you or I would be if we rammed a cop car. So what was your point? When have any somalis ever gotten a lighter punishment than deserved? Do you have even one example or do you just keep "hearing" that?
Comment12
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Sigh. Sometimes I wish that people needed a license to post things online.
5/19/2008 12:21:46 PM Sigh. Sometimes I wish that people needed a license to post things online. KristianT
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greendove wrote:

Cloud girl,
Although this man obviously violated the law and should be prosecuted , your comments are a despicable overgeneralization about a whole group of people. The same things were said about the Irish and Italians, Polish, German's you name them. I believe we need to judge people individually based on their actions not by a group, race or religion. It's your kind of ignorance that will make it harder for the good and law abiding Somalis to adjust and get a fair shake at assimilation.
5/19/2008 12:20:31 PM Cloud girl,
Although this man obviously violated the law and should be prosecuted , your comments are a despicable overgeneralization about a whole group of people. The same things were said about the Irish and Italians, Polish, German's you name them. I believe we need to judge people individually based on their actions not by a group, race or religion. It's your kind of ignorance that will make it harder for the good and law abiding Somalis to adjust and get a fair shake at assimilation. greendove
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mrsseaytobe wrote:

Wow Cloudgirl... did you not get your bowl of Cheerios this morning? What an ignorant thing to say. You cannot just assume that everyone is the same because of their race. Grow up. And I suppose 90% of whatever you identify yourself as are perfect???(sarc) Probably not. I am going out on a branch for that one...

Anyways..wow... I think this guy deserves to get a good hefty chunk of time for using his car as a weapon. He better be thanking his higher power they didnt decide to shoot him over this debacle!
5/19/2008 12:18:43 PM Wow Cloudgirl... did you not get your bowl of Cheerios this morning? What an ignorant thing to say. You cannot just assume that everyone is the same because of their race. Grow up. And I suppose 90% of whatever you identify yourself as are perfect???(sarc) Probably not. I am going out on a branch for that one...

Anyways..wow... I think this guy deserves to get a good hefty chunk of time for using his car as a weapon. He better be thanking his higher power they didnt decide to shoot him over this debacle! mrsseaytobe
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mrsseaytobe wrote:

Police are the most complained about professionals in the world, however, they are the first called when there is a problem (unless you have a crazy uncle bob in the closet who only comes outdoors when there is a problem). I don't complain about them (expect when they target dumb things like left hand turns or seatbelt usage when it seems like someone was getting robbed at the same time...) with that being said, I still respect them enough- they have a hard job to do- babysitting the masses of ignorant folks who cant seem to pull their heads out of their bottoms to act right
5/19/2008 12:14:35 PM Police are the most complained about professionals in the world, however, they are the first called when there is a problem (unless you have a crazy uncle bob in the closet who only comes outdoors when there is a problem). I don't complain about them (expect when they target dumb things like left hand turns or seatbelt usage when it seems like someone was getting robbed at the same time...) with that being said, I still respect them enough- they have a hard job to do- babysitting the masses of ignorant folks who cant seem to pull their heads out of their bottoms to act right mrsseaytobe
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redbear2019 wrote:

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It sounds like a somalis name to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! send them back to where they came from all they do is run people off the roads,they are EXTREMELY VIOLENT people always fighting on school bus AND in school THEY R TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OUR COUNTRY and 90%of them are no good and dirty bring all sorts of germs illnesses parasites and other NASTY crap hare YUK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if you change roads to lands, then you just described white people to me, so should they leave as well?

cloudgirl wrote:

cloudgirl's comment is abusive and has been removed.
5/19/2008 12:06:48 PM cloudgirl's comment is abusive and has been removed. cloudgirl
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Comment12 wrote:

Replying to lakelover:

I did not say they arent punished at all....i simply stated that it does not seem that they are punished the way you or i would be. They are favored because they are foreign and nobody wants to offend them.

But, according to "Comment12", they are never punished for doing this kind of stuff.


5/19/2008 11:52:21 AM

Replying to lakelover:

I did not say they arent punished at all....i simply stated that it does not seem that they are punished the way you or i would be. They are favored because they are foreign and nobody wants to offend them.
But, according to "Comment12", they are never punished for doing this kind of stuff.

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FilthPaste wrote:

Well nowadaze, if you are pulled over the cops are trained to try and jump into your vehicle to stop you if you wait until they get up to you, then at that point in them trying to stop you, if you don't stop, you will get shot. I guess I don't disagree, but it is kind of wierd. But I am guessing this police cruiser simply parked in front of the man, and the dude was like what the hell.
(assumption, but from multiple police videos and articles I am led to believe this)
5/19/2008 11:46:10 AM Well nowadaze, if you are pulled over the cops are trained to try and jump into your vehicle to stop you if you wait until they get up to you, then at that point in them trying to stop you, if you don't stop, you will get shot. I guess I don't disagree, but it is kind of wierd. But I am guessing this police cruiser simply parked in front of the man, and the dude was like what the hell.
(assumption, but from multiple police videos and articles I am led to believe this) FilthPaste
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Deonisio wrote:

Send him to Philadelphia
5/19/2008 11:42:13 AM Send him to Philadelphia Deonisio
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But, according to "Comment12", they are never punished for doing this kind of stuff.
5/19/2008 10:58:08 AM But, according to "Comment12", they are never punished for doing this kind of stuff. lakelover
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TheConcerned wrote:

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How do we know he's Muslim? umm? Cuz i work right next to him...looks like i double up on jobs tonite...

I would imagine you will be doubling up for quite some time as I would imagine this gentleman will be our guest for a bit of time. There had to be six police cars that were at the scene with the rammed Officer having to pull his weapon on the gentleman.
5/19/2008 10:31:01 AM

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How do we know he's Muslim? umm? Cuz i work right next to him...looks like i double up on jobs tonite...

I would imagine you will be doubling up for quite some time as I would imagine this gentleman will be our guest for a bit of time. There had to be six police cars that were at the scene with the rammed Officer having to pull his weapon on the gentleman. TheConcerned
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HundredProof wrote:

How do we know he's Muslim? umm? Cuz i work right next to him...looks like i double up on jobs tonite...
5/19/2008 10:15:56 AM How do we know he's Muslim? umm? Cuz i work right next to him...looks like i double up on jobs tonite... HundredProof
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lakelover wrote:

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Why do they think they can spit on, punch, and now ram police? I keep hearing these stories of somalis doing this kind of stuff, and not having the punishment any other person would get.


----Gimme a break, somalis (if that's even what he is) are just like any other group of people (including white Americans): there's good ones and there's bad ones. You can always tell the intelligence of someone who starts out a biased-based hate-filled comment with "I keep hearing..."
5/19/2008 9:47:08 AM

Replying to Comment12:

Why do they think they can spit on, punch, and now ram police? I keep hearing these stories of somalis doing this kind of stuff, and not having the punishment any other person would get.


----Gimme a break, somalis (if that's even what he is) are just like any other group of people (including white Americans): there's good ones and there's bad ones. You can always tell the intelligence of someone who starts out a biased-based hate-filled comment with "I keep hearing..." lakelover
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KiddsCuz wrote:

Send him back where? How do we know he's Muslim? How do we know he wasn't born here? C'mon folks, I know you're just having a little fun, but these kinds of attitudes don't help the situation
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Comment12 wrote:

Why do they think they can spit on, punch, and now ram police? I keep hearing these stories of somalis doing this kind of stuff, and not having the punishment any other person would get.
5/19/2008 9:36:04 AM Why do they think they can spit on, punch, and now ram police? I keep hearing these stories of somalis doing this kind of stuff, and not having the punishment any other person would get. Comment12
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HundredProof wrote:

HundredProof's comment is abusive and has been removed.
5/19/2008 9:00:37 AM HundredProof's comment is abusive and has been removed. HundredProof
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Baskerville wrote:

send him back (sarc)
5/19/2008 8:26:15 AM send him back (sarc) Baskerville
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mrsseaytobe wrote:

Wow.. That's funny. What on earth can you be so mad at that you feel the urge to ram a cop? I can spell Stupid- can he??
5/19/2008 8:09:59 AM Wow.. That's funny. What on earth can you be so mad at that you feel the urge to ram a cop? I can spell Stupid- can he?? mrsseaytobe
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TheConcerned wrote:

Not a smart way to end a day.
5/19/2008 8:08:21 AM